Re: Steven's claim (below, in Re: Liberal Hawks) that I give with one hand and take with the other.
Well, yes, that's the whole point. There was a massive failure on the
part of some Left Hawks including myself and we have to answer for
that. Lieven is completely correct in much of what he claims the
failure to consist in. His four points critiquing Berman's analysis are
basically fair:
(1) The approach lumps together all Muslim forces critical of the
United States and Israel into one hostile and ideologically united
camp; (2) it ignores the critically important role of local ethnic
feeling not only in hostility to the United States but in the
historical processes of democratization and modernization across much
of the world; (3) it turns a blind eye to Israeli crimes; and (4) it
treats America's allies as useful but contemptible idiots whose views
and interests need not be seriously considered.
I intend to do a better job thinking especially about points (1) and
(2). I take many of the other points Lieven makes as a major bitch slap
against those who took position like mine and I hope we are big enough
to take them very seriously indeed, especially in light of the genuine
suffering that we have gotten into cahoots with. I think I've been
fairly open about that of late.
However, Steven's claim that the Left Hawk aberration was one of the
great intellectual shames of our time, a position that Lieven clearly
shares, is absurd. The attempt by Lieven and Levine to excommunicate
those who strayed into apostasy is in itself shameful. We have a fight
here, essentially, about who the real extremists. Even the claim that
the Left Hawk position could only be explained as a falling to the
Right is offensive. Since when did fighting fascism and totalitarianism
constitute Right Wing aberrations? That is what is wrong with the hard
Left time and time again.
Many of the thinkers in Packer's volume are serious and important
thinkers and the things they are worried about SHOULD be part of Left
discourse. Certainly they (we) are in for some criticism (self and
otherwise) for having gotten so much about Iraq wrong but I think it
would be disastrous for building what Walzer calls a 'decent Left' if
the response to all this is for the Left to forget about its own
problems.
Not that Lieven or Steven are advocating such a thing. But then why the
either/or? Why the refusal to admit that there was something in the
Left Hawk impulse, the desire, as Mitchell Cohen of Dissent said, to
put the concerns about fascism before those of imperialism. Even if
many of the Left Hawks got their priorities wrong, do the authentic
Leftists like Mr. Lieven and Mr. Levine really feel that there is no
problem here?
I agree with much of what Lieven and Steven have to say. I accept much of their criticism of positions that I have held over the last several years. But I would think that a healthy Left would welcome and appreciate such a volume as Packer's, even and especially as we continue to think about American intervention, militarism, Islamic fundamentalism, and globalization.